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Some draw a parallel between Russia's current invasion and the 2003 US invasion of Iraq

US government entered after saying Iran had weapons of mass destruction, and held up that little prop vial on TV.

Ideas of Ali Abunimah talking to BreakThrough News:

"After 9/11, there was this atmosphere of jingoism, of war fever, of vengefulness, that was directed at other countries and very quickly towards Afghanistan and also toward Iraq. We know how that played out. But also it was internally directed because if you were Muslim, Sikhs, people of color generally lived in terror in this country at that time. ... There was pervasive fear not just of vigilante attacks but of government, monitoring and deportations. ... If you said, "Why did this happen? How did this happen? What led to this point? What are the policies of the US that could have created the conditions for this to happen, you were accused of justifying it. You were accused of justifying it, you were treated as an enemy. You were treated as a traitor. Nothing would be allowed to interfere with the headlong rush into war.

"The 9/11 attacks happened in September. By late October the US was invading Afghanistan. Then ... in 2003 they started the march to the war in Iraq based on lies. One of the lies was that Saddam Hussein was involved in 9/11. There was absolutely no evidence of that but it was a story they put out. polls ... the majority of Americans believed [that] ... in addition to the question of weapons of mass destruction."

"I would ask a lot of people who naively supported the invasion of Afghanistan back then, 'If you knew what you know now back then, would you support it again?' Same with Iraq. Forget about people who say this is immoral, this is illegal, this is a war crime."

"People would say, 'But we were attacked.'"

"That's a fact we can't change. Is the response to escalate more war or is it to seek a different approach?"

"I get the same responses today. When you say, 'How did we get here?' you're accused of justifying what Putin did. You're taking the side of Russia. "

"One of the grievances Putin has is the expansion of NATO."

#Russia #IR
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<div><b>Some draw a parallel between Russia's current invasion and the 2003 US invasion of Iraq</b></div><div><br></div><div>US government entered after saying Iran had weapons of mass destruction, and held up that little prop vial on TV. <br></div><div><br></div><div>Ideas of Ali Abunimah talking to BreakThrough News:</div><div><br></div><div>"After 9/11, there was this atmosphere of jingoism, of war fever, of vengefulness, that was directed at other countries and very quickly towards Afghanistan and also toward Iraq. We know how that played out. But also it was internally directed because if you were Muslim, Sikhs, people of color generally lived in terror in this country at that time. ... There was pervasive fear not just of vigilante attacks but of government, monitoring and deportations. ... If you said, "Why did this happen? How did this happen? What led to this point? What are the policies of the US that could have created the conditions for this to happen, you were accused of justifying it. You were accused of justifying it, you were treated as an enemy. You were treated as a traitor. Nothing would be allowed to interfere with the headlong rush into war. <br></div><div><br></div><div>"The 9/11 attacks happened in September. By late October the US was invading Afghanistan. Then ... in 2003 they started the march to the war in Iraq based on lies. One of the lies was that Saddam Hussein was involved in 9/11. There was absolutely no evidence of that but it was a story they put out. polls ... the majority of Americans believed [that] ... in addition to the question of weapons of mass destruction."<br></div><div><br></div><div>"I would ask a lot of people who naively supported the invasion of Afghanistan back then, 'If you knew what you know now back then, would you support it again?' Same with Iraq. Forget about people who say this is immoral, this is illegal, this is a war crime."</div><div><br></div><div>"People would say, 'But we were attacked.'"<br></div><div><br></div><div>"That's a fact we can't change. Is the response to escalate more war or is it to seek a different approach?"</div><div><br></div><div>"I get the same responses today. When you say, 'How did we get here?' you're accused of justifying what Putin did. You're taking the side of Russia. "<br></div><div><br></div><div>"One of the grievances Putin has is the expansion of NATO."</div><div><br></div><div><a href="http://landandseajournal.com/post/hashtag/Russia"></a><a href="http://landandseajournal.com/post/hashtag/Russia"></a><a href="http://landandseajournal.com/post/hashtag/Russia"><a href="http://landandseajournal.com/post/hashtag/Russia">#Russia</a></a> <a href="http://landandseajournal.com/post/hashtag/IR"><a href="http://landandseajournal.com/post/hashtag/IR">#IR</a></a> <br></div>
Some draw a parallel between Russia's current invasion and the 2003 US invasion of Iraq

US government entered after saying Iran had weapons of mass destruction, and held up that little prop vial on TV.

Ideas of Ali Abunimah talking to BreakThrough News:

"After 9/11, there was this atmosphere of jingoism, of war fever, of vengefulness, that was directed at other countries and very quickly towards Afghanistan and also toward Iraq. We know how that played out. But also it was internally directed because if you were Muslim, Sikhs, people of color generally lived in terror in this country at that time. ... There was pervasive fear not just of vigilante attacks but of government, monitoring and deportations. ... If you said, "Why did this happen? How did this happen? What led to this point? What are the policies of the US that could have created the conditions for this to happen, you were accused of justifying it. You were accused of justifying it, you were treated as an enemy. You were treated as a traitor. Nothing would be allowed to interfere with the headlong rush into war.

"The 9/11 attacks happened in September. By late October the US was invading Afghanistan. Then ... in 2003 they started the march to the war in Iraq based on lies. One of the lies was that Saddam Hussein was involved in 9/11. There was absolutely no evidence of that but it was a story they put out. polls ... the majority of Americans believed [that] ... in addition to the question of weapons of mass destruction."

"I would ask a lot of people who naively supported the invasion of Afghanistan back then, 'If you knew what you know now back then, would you support it again?' Same with Iraq. Forget about people who say this is immoral, this is illegal, this is a war crime."

"People would say, 'But we were attacked.'"

"That's a fact we can't change. Is the response to escalate more war or is it to seek a different approach?"

"I get the same responses today. When you say, 'How did we get here?' you're accused of justifying what Putin did. You're taking the side of Russia. "

"One of the grievances Putin has is the expansion of NATO."

#Russia #IR

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