2023 the supply chain and the bulwhip effect really created that initial inflationsurge, and then the media helped fuel this idea that inflation would be sticky, which allowed people to raise prices, and people to demand wages. But as that psychology broke, that cycle is now drifting lower, even expectations. - Tom Lee on what many ‘pundits’ got wrong about 2023, saying the reason was that they had only ever experienced at best the 80s frequent inflation, but never an inflation like the 70s. They focussed on a single analogy. 65% of largecap fund managers are missing their benchmark right now for 2023, way above average underperformance (usually about 55% are missing).
2024 Fed is no longer flighting an inflation war so it doesn't need to be hard on stock market. Instead it just wants to keep the business cycle healthy. That gives them room to cut rates. We're in an earnings recovery cycle. Economy is shifting more towards goods, which helps S&P earnings. Europe and Chine might recover, so earnings backdrop is quite good. People are in cash and will see they could have made way more money if they'd just stayed in the stock market. So market is well supported. Tom Lee.
But there could be big changes. It might not be as narrow. If probabiliy favors market expansion you overweight small caps. They're very cheap relative to S&P right now. The 10 year has a lot of room to come down, and that should bring down mortgage rates, so be overweight groups leveraged to mortgage rates or a recovery in housing, like regional and largecap banks. Financials have a balance sheet recovery, a credit recovery, and even maybe improved demand for credit because pentup capex. (People had been cautious and underordered and didn't expand, but then when the hard data is correct they have to start spending again, which is upside to Industrials earnings, but also helps Financials because capEx is consuming more credit. 2024 a backend loaded year, more money made in second half. AI momentum might go away (timing gets pushed out). Tom Lee.
Calling smallcaps, which have been a drag on portfolios the last few years, ‘zombies’ is an ‘unfair characterization. The Russel has always had only 70% of its companies profitable. So that’s not a problem if companies aren't profitable because that's always been the nature of the index. What matters is macro, like retail inflows. If people are taking money out of the stock market, they're not putting money into any Russel small cap index, so that's why there's been such a drainage out of smallcap and collapse of valuation. P2B is same as bottom at 1999. They have higher cost of money and are generally more levered, so this tight money has punished smallcap businesses. Soft landing isn't good for smallcaps but expansion if it happens is a huge tailwind. Tom Lee.
Financials are underowned. Positioning is lowest in 10 years for hedge funds. Tom Lee.
Technology companies are going to grow earnings faster than S&P, and multiples don't have to contract for Tech. It's just there's less juice in the thesis because there's less room for surprise. You only sell Tech if there's going to be a hard landing and then companies would slash capEx (but then you just want to be in cash). Tom Lee.
History reading is the most important way to understand society, but it's also helped create thematic research for us. Demographic studies. (Crypto disruption, millenials' dislike towards banks.) Labor shortage and AI. Listening to credit and internals. Inflation at the 32-component level. Tom Lee.
Bitcoin is the most secure way to move money. No fraudulent transactions in 15 years of their ledger, with banking 6% are suspicious. Tom Lee. You've never had a downcycle in crypto when Fed is easy.
Berkshire is holding record cash, can't seem to find anything they value buying. They have it in short term security and buybacks.
Is there just a lot of money nowadays and a big investor is less useful? For example, all the new companies get bought at too-high prices, more fail than Buffet's traditional model (or even a model of overall viability), but some have success?
The economy was supposed to be much weaker. It's not. That's why when the market moves, the marrative shifts to fit that price action. - Misra
Fundamentals are holding up in Qs. Tax loss harvesting occurs everywhere except the megacaps. Buybacks will be strongest in megacaps. Megacaps have least sensitivity to cost of borrowing.
Retail traders aren't trading as much. Not great for RobinHood, Schwab, who had been pushed to highs. Can they build a base of wealthier, long term investors who want to use their product? Retailers have learned it's tough to earn on the market, and that this can eat away at their returns.
118 day Hollywood writers strike over (tentative deal still has to be signed). The impact of the strike will be seen rolling. Shows that they didn't write were put off, so will be shown later, next year. How will the industry be on the other side of this? There's a question about if you strike too much there may not be any place to strike from. Writers will get bonuses for hit series though now.
Disney cut back production costs $27b to $2b, so the cost of several projects. Others doing the same. End of content bubble. It's hard to screw up sports, some say, but you gotta figure out how to do it.
Disney parks are more expensive now so sort of target more affluent customers.
European gas inventories are almost 100% full.
Berkshires costs are up 40%.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TvE9hsCb4V0
Same quarter or quarter before Berkshire moved stocks.
Buffet's taxes were stolen and leaked.
This was done by ProPublica, whose business model seems to be significantly just going after wealthy people who have made money (legally). Buffet has a long resume.
More tech layoffs announced.
China. Visitors there need WeChat and DiDi (WeChat pay requires Chinese bank account) to do simple things like pay for taxis (report someone had to pay 100yuan instead of 30 because the driver didn't have change. They had to go to Chinese bank to open an account for WeChat, which required a Chinese phone number, so they had to acquire that from a Chinese telecom, which required a Chinese ID number. Because they were foreign passport holders, they had to buy a 1-year telecom package.
Some hotels reject foreign guests unless they're registered with the public security beaureau.
Canton Fair: 80% Drop in EU/US Buyers. Instead, new customers are from Belt and Road countries.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=G1FkCGSDhPU
Unions aren’t about money to the workers, they're about control, said Ron Baron. He said the TSLA stock went down yesterday because Biden said should unionize, Tesla. The other automakers have unions. It's true that there's little way for a government/large organization to influence a mass of individual workers but can deal with a small committee that controls those workers.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Or1JV2MImyg
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=89HtxizfEdc
Rating stays the same at AAA. This is outlook. The rating doesn't have to do with the economy or workers or productivity. The issue is politicians.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-KxWeupa6U0
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LThIM974gjc
Costco made new highs
Walmart. Target, after plummeting during the year, has been flat since September. The difference is Walmart sells groceries (and US has been in inflation). Anecdotally, someone also said Walmart loves lowering prices and Target hates doing so. Walmart consumables, Target discretionary.
There was a big rally November 14, basically everything green. Russel was up like 4.5% while other indexes were up like 2 or less. Smaller names had big jumps in stock price, while the most famous tech names were just regular up days.
Ford lost $62k on each EV it sold last quarter. Lucid lost $227k per car sold last quarter.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NnjjmnivQnc
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EJeMmRV7B-0
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XEKPUARYckc
Might be some point here about acoutability being proveable in AI and less so in people.
Possible white-collar recession
Airlines have ‘become banks’, selling airmiles to CCs. SWA announced their points will be worth less next year. Lots of points out there.
Right now, domestic travel is down. Still lots of international.
Inflation decrementing at 20basis points per month. Middle of 2024 core CPE might be 2.7 or 2.8 with Fed funds at 5.5. Fed might think it's oversteering.
“Stock pickers paradise” - BofA
“Delinquincies are just coming back to normal after the pandemic.”
Rates. Went from ‘almost too accomodative’ 0% to 5%. Which is different from like 3% to 8%. Also consumers and corporates prepared for higher rates, and locked in obligations at low rates.
Argentina, if it changes to dollars, it needs how many actual dollar bills in the country? It currently has a shortage. Is tying its economy to the US economy a good thing? In future it will be constricted in using monetary policy to buffer against changes in the economy.
Lebanon did incremental rollout of dollarization, starting with certain sectors or businesses.
Homebuilders still doing well, although DIYers down. The pros. Partly because no one is buying new homes.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZuAy0TFQOAk
‘I understand his animus towards Bill Gates for shorting his stock, because that really was a move to try to shut the company down. I don’t understand the same animus towards advertisers who decide to no longer advertise on X because they don't like what's there and they don't want their brand associated with that.' - CNBC host
‘It’s a very bad choice.' Musk on the 2024 election prospects, a sentiment agreed with by many. No one is impressed really with any candidate (perhaps in the general population, because their rallies seem to have supporters).
Auto dealer inventory piling up, discounts will be there.
People are paying a lot for house and vehicle, but that has an easy fix, which is monetory policy. - Tom Lee
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=K0t6g7RdOoE
Bonds have shown that they're bad hedges against inflation. We haven't had inflation in 40 years so everyone forgot about that. - Siegel
Stocks are real assets, just like real estate is.
Luxury market. Wines and spirits puchases down. Some watches prices going down.
The data the Fed is looking at is changing.
Americans' savings almost gone, while in the rest of the world pandemic savings are still high. How reliant is the consumer to overnight interest rates, and if the answer is ‘Not very,' ...
Costs for United. A flat cost assumption for 2024. Costs up 4-5% yOy. And every 1 point of cost is $1 of EPS on $10 of EPS for 2024. New labor contracts and aircraft delays. 8-10 year restocking cycle (also in Defense). Oil prices up.
El-Erian #philosophy
The market has lost the Fed/policy as an anchor (guide) because it's data dependent (backward looking and dubious). Technicals also not an anchor because the market lost the reliable buyers (Fed, China, institutional investors who are under water, Japan).
Short term, the inherent stabilizers of the market aren't there now. The people who, every time the market went down, would come in to lock in those interest rates (who have been buying and watching the valuations continue downward). The market is hunting for buyers of conviction.
We know supply is gonna go up. The Fed is going to offer more bonds.
(Excessive) data dependence is ridiculous because it means using tools that have lags. The notion you are looking at a forward-looking economy in inherently inconsistent.
He said previous Feds had taken a forward-looking view instead. Controversial at the time, but it was critical in anchoring the markets.
“Permacrisis”
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=raZxiN0uy1Q
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PfHycqsG7bs
Higher rates don't matter to many people. Answer to the question why the higher rates aren't really affecting the economy.
Morgan Stanley saw about 50% less money coming into accounts than the year before. The year before, everyone was making 1% on their cash and they could be making 5%, so they all called and made money moves. Now everyone's sitting with 5% and there's no fomo from equities.
Tax loss harvesting in October. Mutual funds want to clear losers off their books before the tax cutoff (October), so they are willing to sell even at an 80% loss when the stock is only down 70%. After October, those sellers have left the market, and this leads to rallies in these low-quality stocks. They go up Nov through Jan.
Bitcoin. The spot ETF is back in the news, and bitcoin jumped again, up about 20% to $35k. It had been as low as $17k last year. When it rose to $70k during Fed money printing, it was tracking with the stock market, drawing considerations that it was tethered to the market now. But this year it has gone up 100% from lows, and up the most recent 40% (from 25 to 35) while the market has not gone up really much (not a risk on tech market), so it appears to be not correlated now. Fink called it a ‘flight to quality’. TLT is down about the same as bitcoin is from their highs. But people aren't buying TLT.
Pompliano called bitcoin the most disciplined central bank in the world, because no one bails it out. If the Fed approves an ETF, that might be good for bitcoin. If the Fed bans bitcoin, people might buy it because they'll really think it's not inside the system, and isn't controlled by any government.
Luxury brands have come down from their highs (last march, 6 months ago), stocks down about 30 or 40%. Sales are back in line with tradition. Hermes is down 12%. Most discretionary items most vulnerable. Champagne sales down for first time in 3 years.
Chanel flat bag is $10k. 4 or 5 years ago, it was $5k.
Most buyers of luxury are not wealthy. They're upper middle class that like to splurge. They currently don't have all that extra cash.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zG_l_7bCR8g
Rich-cession. High earners filing for unemployment. Credit. They're looking at the stock market, which is their holding. Many companies survive because of rich people spending, and all that is driven by the stock market. Top 20% by income account for 50% of spending (?in the economy or just luxury?). Their spending keeps the economy going, keeps companies profitable.
Tech giants and Financial companies (Wells cut 11k jobs ie 5% of their workforce), which had made headlines for laying off thousands of people at a time last year, has stopped doing such layoffs.
Do inversions predict recessions, or do they cause recessions, as Arnott said?
Recessions always start with an economy that's booming. It's the nature of the peek, said Arnott.
People are talking about bitcoin and equities being ‘the safe asset’ because they've lost confidence in government bonds because of the nature of this interest rate risk. El-Erian
Real estate. 7% interest rate for loans for good credit applicants. Homebuilders are paying sometimes 10-11% now, which may lead to restriction of supply and raise rents.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1iiIUoVFNbY
SBF said he bought the Miami Heat arena as advertising, because he didn't believe in Facebook ads, and it was considered a 19-year advertising investment, so it would be 1% of FTX's revenue.
‘It’s t-bill and chill for people at upper end of wealth spectrum'
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PhyHchGE3N4
The 10-year at 5%, reflects uncertainty about how high the Fed has to be. If inflation weakens and unemployment picking up, the Fed will start to cut, is what the markets will think. Tom Lee.
If the economy slows but consistent with soft landing, that's ‘bad news is good news’ but if it's a sudden slowing because we just ran out of gas that's actually ‘bad news is bad news’.
$2t a month a gross issuance.
Inflation might be below 3% next year, said Rieder. However due to government borrowing the long end might not come down. He thinks we'll get a normal curve soon.
Consumption is 70% services in the US. In 100 years there's only been 14 negative quarters of negative growth in services.
China has been tightening over the past year, at various levels including nationally.
The return to office has stalled - JPM guy
What worked in low interest environment (last decade) may not work now, in high interest. Sea change, according to Howard Marks. Teslas were cheap, solar panels were cheap, when financing was low, but cost many percent more now. The companies if they want to keep sales figures have to lower their price to meet consumers' purchasing power. Over the past week or so, Marks, Barrons and Ackman have all publicly advocated bonds to degrees. Siegel also thinks the 10-year is near the top.
McDonalds reported well-higher revenue because of higher prices, but traffic was actually lower.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XupM5_zHDbM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mWiW6gE2cmY
Canada talking about higher for longer. Unknown what will be the thing people cut from their personal budgets, if rent/inflation continues and wages grow less quickly, what will be the things not purchased?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JN9u-lRkXXE
Families in the US on average are 40% wealthier than before 2019. Investments and real estate. The biggest demographic is under 35, who are like 150% wealthier (no other demographic is anywhere close). Do young people have a work experience completely different from any other generation?
Net worth may be irrelevant to peoples ‘happiness’ because you can't spend a house or a 401k. Prices are inflated.
Biggest names in S&P, the top 10%, are paying an effective interest rate of 2.5%, while the bottom 50% are paying 5.5%.
WeWork bankrupt. Doesn't seem much illustrative of any significant larger theme. They leased a lot of offices.
Bond talk day, Nov 1. Bond rates dropped, based on a bit better than expected news about treasury refunding, and then a bit more on reports of weaker economic data. $2b is worth 15basispoints lower. Long end demand starting to wane.
AirBNBust hasn't really happened. Rising interest rates help the company (even if the opposite for it's host clients). AirBNB has cashflow. It gets to hold billions of dollars between the time guests pay and hosts receive. Same for Expedia and Booking. But the headwinds talked about before are still potential. Bookings are down and ADR rates are down/moderating, and there are policy changes in some cities.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KwqPdZH3s10
So companies do tests and share results of tests with Federal government before public release. Bio synthesis screening. Content authentication.
EV purchases have slowed, but companies that had based their premise on the wide adoption of EVs are facing more serious pressures, and corporations are cutting back investments.
Lack of affordable EVs.
Selling packages of consumer products the buyer doesn't know what. 54m users in US. Grown a lot in past couple months. I'd never heard of it before this week when it appeared in headlines saying it was coming for Amazon. Ridiculously cheap deals, cheaper than Amazon, like half or a third of the Amazon price for some things shown (is this because Amazon shifted years ago to trying to profit from products, perhaps manipulating sales competition)? Amazon charges sellers 30%.
Gamified. Spin a wheel and get promo bonuses. Also has games that if you play you can gain buying benefits on their site.
Chinese manufacturers used to sell these products to US retailers, but now Chinese companies are also doing the retail.
Temu takes a bit longer to arrive, but does this Amazon advantage, which they spent a lot on in the past decade, really matter to customers?
Race to the bottom?
Temu spends a lot on advertising, mostly on Facebook etc. They send free products to influencers. They send promo codes, afiliate links to share on social media. However their products might be cheap quality. Knockoffs (like Shien).
Parent company is Pinduoduo. It has a lot of money. It's model is extremely low (unsustainable?) prices. Sales compounding eventually made Pinduoduo profitable in its compatition with Alibaba. It's focus is on customer aquisition and not on profits.
US regulators have been ‘fighting’ TikTok but haven't done anything regarding Temu.
China hasn't made it very easy for foreign investors to operate on the ground over past years when China was a surging place everyone wanted to do business. Now, their period of growth is possibly over, and what can they expect from foreigners?
Services the government wants, versus companies competing with Chinese firms.
Tax intake hasn't been strong this year.
This month, student loan payments resume or something, and on the 15th, there'll be a squeeze on liquidity and the banks because back-taxes in Cali, deferred due to bad weather last year, will come due. Maybe a factor in both bonds and stocks.
Utilities (and other dividend stocks) are way down, compared with S&P also underperforming. They're competing with fixed income of 5%. Less volatile. They're trading at like 19x PE. Some say they should trade at 12x and 10forward.
Utilities are huge borrowers of debt.
tf utilities are not defensive.
A market where all that matters is the balance sheet, with rates being where they are. Because companies, even ones doing good business, that are borrowing, especially on floating rates, are not looking so good. What looks good is businesses that are making profits.
De-inverting very rapidly. - Gundlach
-80 to -30 in past 2 weeks, 2 and 10 year.
Gasoline demand at 25-year low. Rapid decel in credit card spending (5 months consecutive).
The impact of rising rates is affecting the real economy right now.
It's affecting areas of the market expert investors thought were unable to be penetrated.
Clean energy and Solar etfs are down 20 or 30%. Have to borrow right now to fund their projects.
As rates come back down, people will want to buy a different house again (currently they have 3% rates and don't want to buy something with a 7% rate).
40-year low in mortgage delinquincies. Lots of people can afford the new rates, so there is demand (but not supply).
Fed might not be controlling it anymore, but rather bond investors.
Tom Lee said the morning was a bottom and bounce, and it did bounce and closed Friday high. JPM has been talking about 20% more downside.
‘It looks like sugary drinks are one of the places people cut back the most.’ They modify their product for each country. Coke is expanding into coffee and alcoholic beverages. They have knowhow how to bring products to market.
Wells Fargo's exposure to West Coast and loan market.
People actually want to do M&A again, because for the past couple years, the companies had the option to go public and raise more money than an M&A would bring.
He said a slowdown started 3 months ago and people stopped calling a couple weeks ago. And now the people who call are looking for the best deal, and he even lowered his prices. His minimum now is $125, which he quoted for a couple easy things, but months ago he wouldn't even have gone for less that $250.
Mechanic said the same thing, that people don't want to do anything unless it's under warranty.
“As a licensed Home Inspector, this is my worst year in 14 years. The economy is terrible, but the housing market is the worst. One thing I will point out to you, all of those customers that you were too busy to reply to when you were busy, that was a mistake. You could have established a relationship with some of them and maybe some of the others would be reaching out now or in the future. Always touch base with the client that reaches out. Even if you’re too busy, take advantage of the opportunity. Good luck moving forward my friend.”
Why didn't towns and schools open programs to train people and youths how to do things like home repairs etc, like a 1 or 3 month program.
Before, the Fed was trying to get inflation UP TO 2%, but they couldn't do it. Even if they pushed down on their scale, they couldn't make that happen. Now they're trying to do the opposite, selling bonds and raising interest rates.
We still have enormous fiscal stimulus in the economy. Politicians can't agree on what baseline spending should be, not passing budgets. We haven't seen anything much happen in job destruction or wage destruction.
1000 little cuts?
Retail outlets seeing headwinds, and people's credit there (credit makes 60% of their revenue, not actual clothing sales, someone said on CNBC) is seeing delincuincies. Apple not growing fast. Amazon seeing FTC suit for monopoly. Lots of red on the market maps. Companies had good revenue in past quarters and mentioned AI, but x NVDA no one has actually done anything selling AI, which might mean correction upcoming earnings. Basically everyone has mildly negative things to say about market and economy, and no real positives. 10 year still steepening.
Strikes on the rise: Here's why this is happening - YouTubeExample of propaganda from this perspective.
Will Elon be able to get highly valued CEOs? or just COOs?
We haven't had a real recession for 15 years (except for a short blip). So we have a lot of excess we need to work out of the system. Some of that is worked out and the cushion is thinner, but there's more excess to go. - Katie Koch
Capital is re-pricing agressively, and (more, referring to banks) things will break. - Koch
Only 1% of the population, those who make over $5000 per month, will pay income taxes. It was said this would affect 1.something m people (Argentine popluation is 46m). Argentina will print more money to meet the president's socialist promises, who comes to office in December (so the plan hasn't been put in place yet).
In India, 1.6% pay income taxes. In the US, 53% of households pay income tax. Some say wealthy people are leaving India, taking their investable income with them.
A year ago:
Banks to Pay $1.1 Billion to Settle WhatsApp Probe - YouTubeMystery on the street: Rising interst rates are BOOSTING risky corporate loan returns instead of hurting them.
Car prices are up a lot, labor for repairs is up, delayed repairs for lack of labor. Etc. So insurance is up like 20%.
Massive wave of MNA next 6 months.
Marijuana is legal in NY, at least the legal version (which provides dosage and ingredients info on the pack, since plants can contain harmful ingredients). However, it's very expensive, maybe the most regulated industry, so something costs $100 but you can buy from an illegal marijuana shop for $25.
Another issue is that the illegal shops packages are more attractive, but often use themes and images familiar to kids.
Housing as an instrument of profit versus a right.
More stores leaving California. Businesses have leases, and have to wait for the lease to complete.
Inflation Re-Accelerates - YouTubeEnergy Sector the culprit for everything this week. Auto workers on strike, EV transition plans by Biden, Airlines removing routes because of fuel prices.
Demand destruction price might be much higher than $4 (currently at $3.80).
However, weak growth in China.
Lots of movements in labor, labor strikes, as a result of the pandemic, said Bianco. But we were expecting a recession before the pandemic, right?
In 2021 PnG raised prices with much fanfare, warning, a white paper. Today, we just go ahead and raise prices.
Could be yearly a collab? Rev the hype machine, get it going again.
That you can only buy in stores, creating a mania outside retail outlets. That you can have and no one else can have, limited edition. ‘The plastic Blancpain’?
The yeild curve is still very inverted (not as much, but that's what typically happens, that when the recession comes the curve starts to steepen.
Mortgage rates risen way above 7%, high credit card rates, high auto rates, tightening lending standards. Inertia pointing to downside. Lags, you can't pin down when.
Employment prints right before a recession are often good, GDP too.
Claims are up (only a little but up), payrolls are slowing, the revisions are downward.
He's looking at the unemployment rate, which usually rises 50basis points from its low when a recession is coming.
J Powell buys flexibility.
$2.1t in excess savings in US households during pandemic period, due to stimulus. March there was $500b. June $190b. By October, all excess savings predicted to be spent, due to inflation.
The anchoring effect of the inflation target rate of 2%. That's why we can't just change to 2.5%. The economy would become a bit unanchored.
“The sacrifice ratio” - What an economy gives up to get inflation down. Usually you have to give up employment.
NFLX expected that with limiting password to one household, they'd increase subs, but subs decreased a little bit. Were people paying based on an account for several households, which wasn't worth the same money once it was reduced to one household?
Also, it's easy to sub, watch a bunch of series, and cancel the sub, and go to another streamer. Churn. It might not be about price, but rather just about what shows they have. Cable might be cheaper when compared to having 5 or 6 streaming services. Sports is a big consideration. But you can't get all the games from the same service. Amazon jas Thursday nights.
Estimated cost to US economy of Hollywood writers' strike is $5b.
Arrogance? A pretentcus hope for the need for more military?
EM XChina funds outperformed those with China, so there are more popping up.